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rjohn79395 Posted 6 months 4 days ago
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Samwise wrote: I would love to hear what results you would get from a frequency sweep. I am also excited to hear your experience with the 16 Hz tones at the beginning of Live. Die. Repeat.


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Just got Live. Die.Repeat. and played the opening scene. Wow! Now that is bass! The chair shook, I shook. I used an iphone app called Audio Spectrum analyzer that graphs 10-20k HZ band. I can't guarantee it's accuracy, but it sure showed a big spike below 20 HZ. That bass is about as deep as I've heard in a movie. Impressive! I'll play the remainder of the movie tonight. I'd call that scene demo material.

I can't speak to how your options 1 and 2 would sound playing that same scene, but my set up sure killed it.

Hope this helps.

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Samwise Posted 6 months 4 days ago
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That is awesome! Now you've got me excited. About how low does the frequency go and where is the spike at?

I think I saw in one of your posts that you don't use Audyssey room correction. Do you use anything to calibrate your room? Thanks again Rick!

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rjohn79395 Posted 6 months 4 days ago
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The peak I saw was around 16 HZ, some noise below that , but can’t guarantee absolute accuracy.

I tried Audyssey, but it couldn’t deal with powered Triton’s built in subs. I did however use some of the recommended distance settings for subs, which were different from the settings for those same speakers as non sub channels. I presumed those differences were to deal with room modes, and it does do that.

Also, bass nulls can be very different room to room, so YMMV.

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rjohn79395 Posted 6 months 3 days ago
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Just to confirm some observations from listening experiences:

The SVS 16 Ultra would dig a little deeper bass-wise on intro's like the start of Live. Die. Repeat., where sub 20 HZ content is included (rare). But 2 T Ref's equivalent to 2 SuperSub XXL's, with LFE attached, will "shake the room" more. Yes, the room was shaking when I played that scene!

So. option 2 would be amazing also, for bass, and the T1.R would be a step above the T1's. But, for me, it comes down to music/sound quality, whether for pure music, or for all the sound mixes you're likely to play in any format. You can probably tell I'm hooked on the T Ref's. I've heard other GEt combinations (not the T1.R), and the Ref's just mesmerize me.

I'll say again, no bad choices among your 3 options, but I'd lean towards #3 first, #2 second next. I'd want the newer reference technology somewhere in the front L/R speaker mix. Just my opinion.

Rick
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Samwise Posted 5 months 2 weeks ago
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I'm looking for chest thumping bass like from a kick drum, but from what I've been reading that is more in the 60-100 Hz range so I may be set with option 3 like you said.

One logistical question I have for you. For the LFE for your rear Tritons do you run a long cable to the back of the room and then have a Y-splitter followed by two cables to your Tritons or do you have the Y-splitter right at your receiver and then run two long cables to the back of the room and to your Tritons?

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rjohn79395 Posted 5 months 1 week ago
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Samwise wrote: I'm looking for chest thumping bass like from a kick drum, but from what I've been reading that is more in the 60-100 Hz range so I may be set with option 3 like you said.

One logistical question I have for you. For the LFE for your rear Tritons do you run a long cable to the back of the room and then have a Y-splitter followed by two cables to your Tritons or do you have the Y-splitter right at your receiver and then run two long cables to the back of the room and to your Tritons?


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Sorry, I just saw this.

I use a distribution amp (a holdover from when I ran LFE to 4 Tritons from one sub out on a previous receiver), so am feeding the two fronts via the amp from sub 1 out and the two rears from sub out 2, so all LFE leads coming from the front via the distribution amp. But you could make the y split for the rears front or back with the same results. Probably easier to split the lead in back to save LFE cable runs.

Rick
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Zone 2 speakers; 2 Invisa 525's
AVR: Marantz SR 7010
Amps: AT525NC 5 channel, Parasound 275 v.2 stereo
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