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ArthurDaniels Posted 4 years 4 months ago
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I am continuing to experiment with the different combinations of settings for my Triton Ones that are available in my Onkyo NR 3009 Receiver. If I choose a speaker setting other than Full Range, my Onkyo offers a number of crossover frequencies for all of the 9-channel speakers. Right now, I have the Fronts (the Triton Ones) set to crossover at 80 HZ. The LFE crossover for the sub outputs also is set to 80 Hz. This setting combination seems to improve the tightness of the analog bass sounds in my setup - keeping in mind that I am sending analog bass into the Triton Ones LFE inputs from the Onkyo Sub Outputs and setting the Onkyo Analog Direct Subwoofer setting to ON and he Double Bass setting to OFF.

Choosing the 80 Hz crossover point for my Triton Ones also seems to improve the mid-range sound clarity in my setup - again, keeping in mind that I listen to music in the Pure Direct audio mode available in my Onkyo and that "best music" is my primary system goal.

I am also using a Paradigm sub woofer, sitting on a small dolly, in the rear of the room, driven by a separate Denon AVR 790 Receiver. I have the Paradigm Level control set to the "9 o'clock" position and the Paradigm cutoff frequency set to 80 Hz. The Denon LFE setting is also at 80 Hz. With these settings and by adjusting the level control on the Denon, I have been able to experience some additive analog bass without introducing unwanted "boom" to the overall bass effect in the room.

The point of this message is to encourage other Triton One, Two, or Three owners who have similar adjustment options to experiment with their equipment to see if better sound (as each one hears "better sound") can be achieved.

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ArthurDaniels Posted 4 years 4 months ago
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I'm back again with another setup experiment and report. In previous posts, I have mentioned that I own a pair of Triton Ones, a pair of Triton Sevens, and a pair of Supersat 3Cs. When I acquired my Ones, I shifted my Sevens to the rear of the room. I already had a pair of KLH speakers for Rear Surrounds, so, when I shifted the Triton Sevens to the Rear, they became a second pair in the back of the room.

My first attempt with the Sevens was to connect them to a separate Sony STR DE 885 5.1 Receiver as Fronts and use them as "Rear Fronts" to fill the room with sound. I was not very happy with this setup, so then I removed the Sevens from the Front speaker connections and connected them to the Surround terminals on the Sony 5.1 Receiver. Extensive listening in this mode ultimately proved unsatisfactory as well.

So, what to do with my Triton Sevens - they are too good to relegate to a secondary role and I have no intention of selling them. All during these experiments, I have had my SuperSat 3Cs connected to yet another Sony STR DE 197 Receiver and I have been using this setup to provide a separate level control for the Center Channel by cabling the Sony STR DE 197 to my Onkyo Center Pre-Out and connecting the SuperSats as L/R Centers, with a speaker placed on each side of the TV.

Then, I thought: Why not move the Sevens to the front of the room and place them in between the Ones. With this configuration, I have a couple of new ways to use the Sevens. These new uses require continued use of my Sony 5.1 Receiver to drive the Sevens.

Choice one was to reinforce the Center Channel by cabling the STR DE 197 to the STR DE 885 and using the Sevens as a second pair of Center Channel speakers. This choice has proven very satisfactory and significantly improves the Center Channel dialogue when we watch movies or TV - especially when watching older two-channel movies, videos, or TV because the Sevens do a better job than the SuperSat 3Cs of handling the "dialogue plus other sounds" which are present in the older 2 channel presentations.

The second use of my Sevens is as a second pair of Front Speakers when I am listening to music. I had read that having more than one pair of Front Speakers was a specific "No-No". So, I was skeptical about using the Sevens and the Ones both as Front Speakers. The physical position of the Sevens is on the floor just to either side of the TV, while the Ones are about 3 feet further out left and right and parallel to the Sevens. To my surprise, I am finding that the Ones and Sevens play nicely together in the 2-channel mode. I have both the Onkyo and the Sony 885 set to Pure Direct for 2-channel listening and they are the only active speakers when I listen to music (my Paradigm sub is still in the rear of the room and is separately driven by a Denon 7.1 Receiver).

I have angled the Ones inward to face my listening position and I have angled the Sevens slightly outward so that they do not directly face my listening position. I use the level controls on the Onkyo and the Sony to balance the sound between the Ones and the Sevens, with the Ones slightly predominat as the primary fronts. I find the sound stage to be undisturbed by this arrangement and, in fact, I like the "wall of sound" effect.

Happy listening to all,

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murphyslaw1978 Posted 4 years 4 months ago
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I've often wondered what a wall of sound on all sides could sound like. Some systems are setup as line arrays. I once tried to pair up multiple pairs for the fronts. Sometimes this works well, other times it just causes interference as the sound waves are leaving the cones at different times. But if it sounds good, I'd say you have found a use for those sevens.
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ArthurDaniels Posted 4 years 4 months ago
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murphyslaw1978 wrote: I've often wondered what a wall of sound on all sides could sound like. Some systems are setup as line arrays. I once tried to pair up multiple pairs for the fronts. Sometimes this works well, other times it just causes interference as the sound waves are leaving the cones at different times. But if it sounds good, I'd say you have found a use for those sevens.


So far, I remain pleased with the sound. As I mentioned in the original post, when listening to music, I have the amps adjusted to permit my Ones to be the "Primary Fronts". The Sevens have made a significant difference when used as Centers during movies and TV. Because the Ones and Sevens have similar technology, perhaps the issues associated with multiple fronts are minimized. If I had the space, I might spread the Ones even further apart, but that option does not exist in my listening area.

Audio purists may very well chuckle at my approach, but part of the fun for me is experimenting with different configurations. In this setup, since the Sevens are not as tall as the Ones, the Sevens seem to have a "filling effect" - especially when listening to full orchestral music.

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murphyslaw1978 Posted 4 years 4 months ago
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You also have more bass, albeit not all the way down below 20Hz, but still, it's more bass.
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ArthurDaniels Posted 4 years 4 months ago
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murphyslaw1978 wrote: You also have more bass, albeit not all the way down below 20Hz, but still, it's more bass.


Yes, I thought about that aspect of this arrangement. And, I might be experiencing a different total bass sound, since I am driving my Ones with analog bass via their LFE inputs and with 80 Hz crossover settings, while the Sevens are being drive as Large Speakers with full-range sound.
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